Hokies Add Two More Commitments

by JustinC on June 25, 2013 · 4 comments

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The Hokies are in rebuilding mode on the offensive side of the ball so when it comes to finding players who fit their system, the Hokies have had to look under some rocks in this class for players who aren’t shining above the rest of their peers. There’s a clear risk there just as there’s a clear risk to taking a player who may be a little more talented but enjoys the limelight. Recently, the Hokies have added two potential offensive stars in FS/WR prospect Shawn Payne and OT Tyrell Smith. I’ll discuss what they each bring to the table below.

Let’s talk Payne first. With Kalen McCain dropping Virginia Tech, the Hokies were free to go out and pursue another safety prospect even with 4* MJ Stewart still on the board. Payne received a non-committable offer back in the spring with the requirement that he had to attend either the June or July camp if he wanted a committable offer. Payne showed up to the June camp and stood out in the afternoon drills.

Obviously, Payne isn’t going to wow you with his combine drills but when you find a 6’3” safety prospect with long arms, that runs well, and shows a lot of upside, you have to find a way to offer that prospect. That’s what the Hokies did and I think they may be getting a small upgrade here in the long run.

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There is the possibility that Payne may start out at receiver but I think he’s going to be a long term safety prospect all the way. He has the build for it and I think his skillset is better served on the defensive side of the ball. But, we’ll have to way and see what transpires when he enrolls next July.

Now, over to our new commitment from tonight, offensive tackle Tyrell Smith out of New Jersey. The Hokies are trying to bring back some toughness on this offensive line and Smith gives them a little bit of that attitude that offensive line coach Jeff Grimes wants. Smith was impressive at the June 2nd camp and liked him enough to give him a committable offer that day as well.

Smith has really good size at 6’5” and 260 pounds. He will need to redefine his body a bit. He has a little baby fat still on him but with one more year of high school weight training and then a redshirt season when he arrives at Tech, which should be plenty of time for him to bulk up to the proper weight. He has good enough size now that I’m not too concerned about his weight.

If Smith has one major asset its his quick feet and long arms. He does a good job of engaging opposing defensive linemen on film, maintaining form, and driving them off the line of scrimmage. Like most high school linemen, he relies a little too much on brute strength and not enough on true form. That’s something that will change in college as it’s tough to push defensive ends around at this level.

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Overall, Smith is a good pickup from a development perspective and you can’t knock taking a kid out of the talent factory that is Don Bosco Prep. So far, I like the two pieces Tech has added on the offensive line in this class. They’re not world beaters but they’re going to get us back to being a newer version of our 1999 offensive line.

Couple Notes

There is a good chance that Lamont Simmons commits soon. The Hokies are filling up in the secondary and I would be a little shocked if he doesn’t commit within the next few weeks. I know the Hokies are hopeful to land four star corner MJ Stewart but I’m not sure his decision would factor into what Simmons does. As far as I can tell, the Hokies would have a spot for both in this class. Remember the 85-man scholarship limit is the problem here and not the 25 man limit.

There seems to be a lot of signs pointing towards Derrick Nnadi slowly coming towards the rebel alliance and shunning the dark side once and for all. Of course, I think his decision may depend on what 5* DT Andrew Brown does. I don’t see Nnadi or Brown ending up at the same school. I think one will go to Tech and the other will end up at UVA.

Speaking of Brown, there are some interesting quotes going around from his conversation with Bryan Stinespring earlier this week. That’s still not enough to sway me in my pick of him going to UVA. I just don’t think anybody is going beat out the Hoos in this one. Of course, I said the same thing two years ago about Korren Kirven and he surprised everyone when he picked Alabama. So, only Andrew and his father truly know what’s going on right now. But, my money is still on UVA.

I have a feeling that the Hokies are going to try and wrap up the majority of this 2014 class by the end of the summer. It wouldn’t shock me for VT to end up with 16 or 17 commits by the end of August, if not more. With Tech eliminated for Hand, there’s really only several more pieces to add before you either call it a day or narrow your sights on just a handful of recruits in this class and begin focusing solely on 2015.

I think the Hokies will look to sign one more DB, 1 or 2 linebackers, three more defensive linemen if possible, two more offensive linemen, and maybe one more receiver. Outside of that, I think Tech would likely call it a day and move onto 2016.

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John June 25, 2013 at 10:11 pm

With VT targeting really only one more DB, how does that affect Simmons vs. Stewart? Wouldn’t it be way too many DBs to get them both (not complaining)?

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JustinC June 26, 2013 at 12:24 pm

It will come down to numbers but I don’t feel overly confident that we’ll get Stewart. If I had to guess I think he goes to UNC. But, in this case, I’ll act like we will.

Right now, Tech has potentially 3 DBs headed to FUMA in Holland Fisher, Cequan Jefferson, and Brandon Shegog. I think you have to recruit like those three players don’t exist. Of course, the coaches know more than I do so if a player is just one class shy or maybe 50 points shy on an SAT or something, it’s probably better not to fill his spot with someone else since they’re so close. But I think you have to take Fisher into account and just pretend like his spot doesn’t exist anymore. If he does make it in next summer then you can adjust accordingly. But, it’s better to over-recruit and adjust then it is to under recruit and get caught short handed when a player has to go the JUCO route.

Here’s how our defensive secondary breaks down based on senior years.

2013: Exum, Fuller
2014: Jarrett, Bonner
2015: Manning, Frye, Riley
2016: Tookes, Fuller, Facyson, Greene
2017: Anybody that enrolls in January of 2014 or summer of 2014 and doesn’t redshirt

Right now, the Hokies have three players in limbo at FUMA with CJ Reavis, Shawn Payne, Terrell Edmunds, and Travon McMillian committed in the secondary for 2014. Since we’ve been light at safety in recent years, I don’t think taking both Stewart and Simmons would be overkill. You have to recruit guys you know are going to be able to enroll especially when you have three players going to FUMA. We all know how tough it is for some to go from FUMA to Virginia Tech without any problems.

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LJ June 26, 2013 at 9:35 pm

More evidence of our recruiting issues. We wrestled Payne from the clutches of Charlotte and Smith from UMass and Florida Atlantic…I love those battles…we are not winning the real battles for the players we need to get. Rivals Mike Ferrell put it best “Beamer Ball” is not Resonating at all with recruits that will allow us to keep pace in this league. The best state of Virginia class in a long time..Maybe ever and UVA and other cherry picking schools are kicking our A**…Keepingitreal

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Brian June 27, 2013 at 8:41 pm

I still can’t understand how UVA reels in some of these recruits. I know we had a bad year last year, but seriously??? UVA??? HOW???

We really need to bounce back, get back to winning games, play quality football with a productive offense to create an appealing option for the higher rated prospects. Not getting pounded into the turf by Bama would be nice too.

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