The Notebook: Future Schedules and Logan Thomas

by JustinC on December 12, 2012 · 11 comments

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vt logo white 300x142 The Notebook: Future Schedules and Logan ThomasIf you haven't heard, Jim Weaver and Virginia Tech's Athletic Department announced a two-for-one deal with fellow in-state University Old Dominion this week.  The Hokies will host the Monarchs in football in 2016 and 2019 while traveling to Norfolk in 2018.  This has been met with some skepticism from Virginia Tech fans on the interwebs but overall, I think it's a positive move for our program. Any time you get to play in a talent rich area, the Hokies need to take every advantage of that.  That 2018 trip to Norfolk will be the first time the Hokies have played in the "757" since 1984.

By 2016, ODU will be in Conference USA.  Or hell, by then they could be in a reformed ACC or Big East.  With conference realignment, its hard to say exactly where they'll be.  But, they'll be an FBS team similar to a Miami of Ohio or Central Michigan. 

With the unveiling of this series, also posted a few more scheduled football games coming up within the next 10 years.  In 2018, the Hokies will once again host William and Mary inside Lane Stadium.  The last time the two teams met was back in 2007 with the Hokies winning that one 44-3. Although, Tech and the Tribe will play again in 2014.   In 2019, Tech will host the Charlotte 49ers in Lane Stadium.  That will be the first meeting between the two programs.  The 49ers are just starting up their football program beginning in 2013 and will be in Conference USA, at least, by the time 2019 rolls around.  Lastly, Tech will face Richmond in 2021.  That will be the first time those two programs have faced each other in football since 1986.  The Hokies won that last matchup 17-10.

Also of note, Tech's out of conference schedule over the next four seasons have been locked into place.  Here's how each of those look starting with the 2013 season.

2013: Alabama (Aug. 31st), Western Carolina (Sept 7th), at East Carolina (Sept. 14th), Marshall (Sept. 21st)

2014: William and Mary (Aug. 30th), East Carolina (Sept. 13th), at Ohio State (Sept. 20th), Western Michigan (Sept. 27th)

2015: Furman (Sept. 5th), at East Carolina (Sept. 12th), Ohio State (Sept. 19th)

2016: Liberty (Sept. 3rd), Wisconsin (Sept. 10th), East Carolina (Sept. 17th), Old Dominion (Sept. 24th)

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There are two interesting trends here.  First, Jim Weaver must know that Notre Dame is going to be our final out of conference game in 2015.  Over the next four seasons, 2015 is the only one with an opening.  Of course, if that changes then buying out an FCS team isn't a bad option either.  Also, Tech will have four out of conference home games in 2016 to go along with four ACC home games.  This will be the first time, that I can remember, that Tech will have 8 home games in one season.  #ALLOFTHETAILGATING

 Should Logan Thomas Go Pro

Logan Thomas will receive his results back from the NFL Draft Advisory Board about where he stands to go in the NFL draft in April within the next few days, if he hasn't received them already.  Right now, I'm leaning towards the possibility of Thomas going pro.  There are reasons for him to both stay and turn pro.  But, right now I think the most sound financial decision is for Logan to take the money and run.

While his 2012 season was anything but spectacular, Thomas still figures to be a first round pick.  Mel Kiper Jr. said as much in an interview with Virginia Tech beat writer Andy Bitter this week. 

“That’s the thing you just have to always factor in,” Kiper said. “Is he out of the first round completely? I can never just move out of the first round completely anybody with his size and his arm and his athletic ability. You can coach him up in the NFL and there’s a lot to work with there. He’s the kind of guy who needs a quarterback coach, needs to work on some things.”

This is not a great NFL draft class, especially at the quarterback position.  Thomas's main competition will be Matt Barkley (USC), Geno Smith (WVU), and Mike Glennon (NC State).  Perhaps a few juniors will declare as well, which could change those rankings a bit.  But right now, Thomas would be the 2nd or 3rd QB off the board behind Barkley and Glennon.

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Brian B December 12, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Two seasons come to mind…
2006: Northeastern, Cincinnati, Southern Miss, and Kent State were 4 home NC games. Plus 4 ACC games (GT, Duke, Clemson, UVa) = 8 home games. Not a thrilling slate, but 8 tailgates! Also, 2002: Arkansas State, LSU, Marshall, UVa (NC home games), and Big East home games (Rutgers, Temple, Pitt, and WVU).


justinc December 12, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Thanks for fact checking that. I forgot that we had 8 in 2006. For some reason, I thought we played at somebody that year. Either way, that should be a fun slate with Wisconsin at home along with our first meeting with ODU.


VTnyc December 13, 2012 at 6:41 am

If…if we get a new OC then Thomas should leave for the draft. He doesn’t want to be learning a new system going into his senior year. However he really needs more game experience before he enters the NFL. He’s got to work on not staring down his receivers and his check downs. If he enters the NFL now he won’t see much game time.


69HOKIE December 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm

If he is projected in the 1st round, definitely GO PRO. This coaching staff will not help him improve his status. They could get him hurt. If he is projected for the 2nd round, I would still give it serious consideration. That’s still good money, and he should get better coaching.

One thing to consider is that Kiper has been wrong before in his projections (Stith). Logan and his family have a very hard decision coming up. I hope only the best for HIM.


VTnyc December 14, 2012 at 6:43 am

I had heard the rumors a while ago that VT might pursue Tony Franklin for OC since he has connections with Beamer and Foster. Now that he went to California with his previous head coach what other options are out there? This rumor seemed possible because of the personal connections. Now I just don’t see any changes happening to the coaching staff.

I read some articles about slow bowl tickets sales and fingers seem to be pointed everywhere other than the obvious…poor bowl game performances. I don’t mind traveling and dishing out money to go to the VT bowl games or big early season games. However I have started to sour on dishing out all the money just to see a poorly coached game with sloppy play.


LJ December 14, 2012 at 10:41 pm

VTnyc, you bring up a very sensitive point to the serious VT football T. Franklin is not interested at ALL. I have been to 4 of the last 5 bowl games and must say as someone who spends over 3,000 dollars a year on VT football, I did not think twice about not going to Orlando this year. Leading up to this year’s game there has not been any serous announcements or rumors about coaching changes. In the past Frank Beamer has become very upset when asked about those types of questions. Bryan Stinespring is like a brother to Frankie B, and his family has a close relationship with the Beamers, Shane included. In 1990, Beamer gave Stinespring his first college job after only 3 seasons as a mediocre high school coach. He started as a graduate assistant, and Stinespring has been in Blacksburg ever since. He married Beamer’s secretary, the former Shelley Franklin. Shelly is very close to Frank’s wife and Tracy Weaver the AD’s wife. It is one happy family and a situation that will not resolve itself just because VT football is heading south, it’s bigger than football, and it’s as much about entitlements. My biggest fear is that we win the bowl game and Beamer sees it as a mandate to do Nothing going forward, and dismisses the regular season as a hiccup! Only two teams on our schedule had more talent than us and we failed to coach them up…I have talked to almost a hundred VT fans since the season was over and they all are concerned that if we win, 8 win seasons will be the new normal around the program. We need changes…keepinitreal…Go Hokies


VTnyc December 15, 2012 at 10:07 am

Thanks LJ. When I heard rumors of Franklin being approached to coach I was excited because I knew the only way Beamer would make a change was if he had a history with the prospective coach. I completely agree with you that if VT wins the bowl game Beamer will think everything is okay the way it is. Is it bad during the Boston College game I was actually hoping they would lose that way they wouldn’t be bowl eligible? Yes I know there was still the UVA game to go but losing to them is not an option. If VT doesn’t go to a bowl game and the streak is broken then I would think Beamer would be pressured into making changes.

Are there any options out there for a new O-line coach? What’s Jake Grove up to? I wouldn’t mind our o-line having some of his mauler mentality.


LJ December 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm

Looking at the new 2014 ACC and how VT fits in…

First of all it is looking more and more like Clemson & FSU are now firmly at the top of the football side of the conference. But the question is will VT maintain a program good enough to sit right behind those two programs going forward? As is, with no changes…I say no. This is why.. Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Notre Dame are all joining the conference with ND being a part time football participant. First of all, Louisville came up huge in talking Charlie Strong out of the Tennessee job. This is a program that is defiantly on the rise and I see them sitting right behind or maybe even in front of Clemson and FSU. A program of the future under Strong. While Pitt has not been in our league from a talent standpoint …at least not on paper they own us on the field, so I will keep them below us year in year out but that is not a given at this point. Syracuse is tough in the Carrier Dome but I don’t think they will ever finish ahead of us in the conference…and Dave Doeren, the new head coach at N.C. State, hired a good coach in Dave Huxtable as the defensive coordinator Friday. Former defensive coordinator at Pitt and I like what they are doing down in Winston Salem..Look out for them in a year or two. And we know ND will steal the headlines when they play an ACC team…eventually they will be all in but it may take a while. Meanwhile we (fans) sit back and see how VT will react and is our dominance going to fade altogether or just gradually?


Vhokie December 18, 2012 at 10:32 am

We have been at the top of the ACC since we joined. The numbers speak for themselves. We had a bad year…a down year, but I wouldn’t be so quick to write us off as being at the top. The Hokies have surprised us in the past when they seemed down. I wouldn’t be surprised if we are right back in the thick of things next year. We have a good recruiting class coming in…things can change quickly in today’s NCAA football world. 247 sports has our class ranked 10th, and then UNC 15th, FSU 16th and Clemson 17th. Pitt has the 32nd ranked class…Louisville’s class is ranked 95th. (One 4 star and eight 3 stars)
I agree we do need to make coaching changes and I hope they do…but at least on paper, the talent is there to compete at the top.


LJ December 18, 2012 at 4:47 pm

Agree, and understand but 6-6 also speaks for itself. You just said it…things change quickly in college football and that holds true with how quickly a program can disintegrate too. I travel every week across the country and as a whole we get no respect nationally. Outside Virginia we are not considered a top program, and if we previously were that has now changed…yes it has only been one year but Unfortunately even the best programs have to re-invent themselves…Many great programs fall off the radar until a change is made(Notre Dame, Michigan, Texas, USC, Ohio State and Pen State to name a few). As for recruiting, I agree we have some good players coming but that does not mean everything. We currently have more 4 star recruits on our roster than everyone on our schedule except FSU & Clemson…so on paper we should have been 10-2 this year? Take Louisville, they have 3 maybe 4 ..4 star players and they would wipe the floor with us. Our two common opponents UNC & Pitt they beat and we lost to them..BIG. All this does (recruiting) is keeps us competitive and winning enough to be relevant. I don’t see any more 10 win seasons under this staff…Let’ s look at the incredible 10 wins in a row streak. We dominated on special teams, we did not face the spread offence, we lead the country in interceptions, we had Clemson & FSU in down years with coaching issues, we had 1,00 yard rushers…on and on. Hey all good things come to an end…but when will it end so we can re-invent ourselves too? Keepingitreal


VTShane December 18, 2012 at 11:25 am

The talent was there this year too…albeit young…..the HORRIBLE offensive coaching was exposed without a freakishly talented QB/RB combo to scramble us out of HORRIBLE playcalling (Vick, Vick, Taylor, Randall etc). Newsome, Stinespring and O’Cain were finally exposed and like other posters have concluded, if we win this bowl….NOTHING changes on the staff and we are headed for upper middle of the ACC pack (and that is not saying that FB would make changes if we do lose). We do not coach well on the offense and I think our big game and bowl record prove we have absolutely NO idea how to coach from behind. While thankful to FB for the rise, I fear we are going to be Paterno’d.


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